This paragraph is the exact same text for all my solo and group PvE templates, so after you read this once you can just skip it for other classes. These are my templates for what I consider the best viable templates for PvE purposes ONLY. A solo template is assuming that you never plan on grouping. A group template assumes that you are in a group 100% of the time, such as end game instances. I have also been asked to provide info on what skills should be taken at which levels, this is really difficult as it would depend on exact individual play styles. However, I put a number in parenthesis before each skill, this number is the level that I would take the skill at, of course this is extremely prejudiced because it is based on my own play style. Of course if you think you have a better template please share it with us.
Assassination Talents – 16 points
(10-11-12-13-14)Malice – rank 5/5
(50-51-52)Ruthlessness – rank 3/3
(48-49)Improved Slice and Dice – rank 2/3
(53)Relentless Strikes – rank 1/1
(54-55-56-57-58)Lethality – rank 5/5
Combat Talents – 35 points
(17-18-19)Improved Gouge – rank 3/3
(15-16)Improved Sinister Strike – rank 2/2
(42-43-44-46-47)Lightning Reflexes – rank 5/5
(20-21-22-23-24)Deflection – rank 5/5
(26-27-28-29-30)Precision – rank 5/5
(59-60)Improved Evasion – rank 2/2
(25)Riposte – rank 1/1
(31-32-33-34-35)Dual Wield Specialization – rank 5/5
(37-38-39-40-41)Mace Specialization – rank 5/5
(36)Blade Flurry – rank 1/1
(45)Adrenaline Rush – rank 1/1
By admin On February 27, 2009 No Comments
NOTE: This strategy is for mages only
This is probably the best way to get money for your epic mount… I spent roughly 5 days of 11am-11pm. I started on Monday, and by the next Monday I bought my epic mount. There are, however some requirements for this, which the details follow on below. I have tested both frost and fire specs with this strategy and they both seem fine, however the fire spec tends to increase the efficiency.
A level 60 Mage with
Frost Spec with Ice Barrier and improved Arcane Explosion
Fire Spec with combustion and blast wave
Head over to Scarlet Monastery and pop yourself in the graveyard instance.
Kill all the NPCs in the hallway and room as normal APART FROM THE GROUP OF 4, which I will show you how to kill below. What’s below should be enough, if you feel under threat, use mana shield.
Enable Combustion -> Blast Wave -> Arcane Explosion (repeat until they are all about 15% health) -> Frost Nova (then move back) -> Flamestrike -> Cone of Cold.
Ice Barrier -> Arcane Explosion (repeat until they are all about 15% health) -> Frost Nova (then move back) -> Blizzard -> Cone of Cold.
OK, now that room is over. Carry on through the next corridor, killiung as normal. When you get into the graveyard, stop. This is where your income comes from. Make sure you have full health, mana and plenty of spirits to pull Then do the following:
Mana Shield -> Combustion
NOW RUN AROUND AND PULL AROUND 25 SPIRITS. AVOID THE ELITES. STOP PULLING IF YOU ARE DOWN TO HALF HEALTH AND THEN…
Mana Potion (if required) -> Blast Wave -> Frost Nova -> Walk away so they cant hit u before they die
NOW RUN AROUND AND PULL AROUND 25 SPIRITS. AVOID THE ELITES. YOU MAY NEED TO USE MANA SHIELD AFTER BARRIER DROPS. STOP PULLING IF YOU ARE DOWN TO HALF HEALTH AND THEN…
Mana Potion (if required) -> Arcane Explosion (repeate until all are dead, this is usually around 4 explosions)
Now you have killed loads and loads of spirits, loot them… you will get plenty of money along with green items, which you can choose to sell at AH or Vendor when you’re done. You can carry on into the building at the end and kill the NPC’s and boss in there, then come out and reset instance, and go straight back in and do it all again (until your bags are full).
By admin On February 23, 2009 No Comments
This is a guide to leveling as a hunter. I will discuss leveling methods, gear and talent specs.
The hunter is a ranged DPS class, so don’t try to play it any other way (NO, you can’t be a melee hunter. Roll a rogue instead). A well played hunter is a asset to any group, since they can DPS all out and wipe all their agro with feign death and repeat. Furthermore their pets are excellent to keep on standby as bodyguards for the healers. Also pets, when solo, can get you out of most sticky situations; just leave it to die and run away and feign death.
Hunters are one of the easiest, if not the easiest, class to level. Due to their pet they can distract mobs around quest items or simply get clean away and FD without fear of getting resisted. As other classes, you can either quest or grind your levels. I prefer to mix it up and grind when I am short on time or couldn’t be arsed to travel to an area and find my way around.
Whichever you choose, I highly suggest doing nothing but instances from 58-60 to gear up and get all your key quests done. Not doing so, means missing out on a huge amount of XP.
The traditional ways are:
Not much to say about this. You kill mobs, they give XP, you lvl. If you don’t have a comprehensive knowledge of where quests take you and which order is best, grinding is pretty fast for leveling.
It can be pretty boring, but listening to music or being on Vent/TS helps a lot. Get a rhytm going and stay in it. Take breaks when you mana up to not go completely blind
The following is pretty good list of where to grind which mobs. It is however from a Horde perspective and you need to scroll down a bit to get to the guide If you read the whole bit, there are some suggestions for alternatives, which work just as well…if not better.
If you know your way around the world, this is the fastest way to level up. This is also known as gresting to some. Decent horde guides are few and far between (there are some on this site), alliance have it a lot better.
Horde – if you are horde, use Joana’s guide. That will take you from 1-60 in 5 days /played. It’s written from a hunter perspective, so my suggestion is staggering your progress in the guide by a lvl or two. Other than that, there are some (admittedly with holes in them) guides here in the strat section. An idea is to try and modify the following Alliance guide.
http://forums.blizzhackers.com/viewtopic.php?t=309717 is the text guide (thanks Bay_Cassius
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=wow+world+of+warcraft+levels are links to all the videos (thanks sQren)
Alliance – if you are Alliance, you got it made! The following guide will quickly and easily take you from 30-60. Reason it’s 30, is because of the quests pre that are in and around the starter areas, so just level quickly to 30 and you are set.
For leveling I recommend Beastmastery (BM) and then Marksman(MM) up to 60. If you decide doing 58-60 in instances, consider re-speccing to Marksman/survival (link to endgame guide: hunter later).
Reason for BM, is that it really makes a difference in your pet and your pet isn’t gear dependent (unlike you). With full BM, your pet has about the same DPS as you autoshooting.
This is the spec I suggest for leveling:
31 BM / 20 MM
Go BM until 40, then MM up to Aimed shot and then fill out the rest of MM. With BM, your pet holds agro like a champ and you won’t be able to peel it off of it.
Method of pulling: pull with a serpent sting, send in pet, auto shoot it until dead. If it runs, concussive shot it and maybe fire off an Arcane shot. The most important thing when grinding/questing is to stack your mana use, so you get long periods of mana-regen (eg. hunter mark mob, sting it, wait until mob starts to run, then conc shot+arcan shot it. This way you have 20 or so secs of mana regen). This way you don’t need drinks at all.
Hunters get mail at 40 and a nice set for that is the "tough scorpid" set.http://www.thottbot.com/?s=tough+scorpid It’s all AGI and SPI, so you hit hard and regen mana fast. It can be a bit tricky to get the set, so feel free to mix in any kind of AGI gear. AP-gear can often be had as well, so if you get some cheap AP gear toss that in the mix. The endgame guide: hunter has a bit more on gear, so check that out for gear at 58-60.
A good site for pet info is this one:
It’s a bit outdated, but the lay out is really good and it has a lot of info.
Getting a pet is a question of doing a quest at lvl 10 (get it from your trainer), then go tame a pet. As you progress your career, you can put down a freezing trap, use aspect of monkey and tame it. This way you won’t get hit much.
Pet choice up to 37-38 is optional, but cats are always good. Alternatively get a boar, since they have some nice specials (a root). At 37/38 go to Badlands and get Broken Tooth. He is a rare spawn with a 1.00 attack speed, which almost guarantees he will get a frenzy proc early in the fight, so he is worth the wait.
Here is some info about him:
And here are his spawn points:
You will have to camp the spots for him, since he is rare, but if you stand in the middle of the map up on a ledge you can "Eagle eye" all 3 spawn points. He spawns around the ridge stalkers in the area, but he is NOT stealthed, so if you see a sand-coloured cat, it’s most likely Broken Tooth.
Keep and use Broken Tooth until 60. At 60, get a boar as well (From EPL) and get a wolf from LBRS (since they have the highest rank dash and bite, and they also have furious howl, which is a pretty decent raid damage adder).
The boar is easy enough to get, but the wolf can be tricky to get without a group. You can however easily duo it with another hunter (the easiest wolf to get is in a patrol with 2 wolfs and one humanoid after the ogres and the small insects) and 2-3 pots of invis and liberal use of FD+pet distraction. PLEASE bring a pet you don’t mind getting rid of when you attempt to get the wolf
Here is a walk-through to getting it. Soloing takes very good gear, so I recommend bringing a friend or being willing to use a lot of pots and elixirs.
Life after 60
I wrote an Endgame guide: hunter, which you should read if you plan on PVE-raiding
Other than that, enjoy your hunter. It’s a rewarding class, and people will love grouping with you…if you are a good player. There are however a lot of sucky hunters, so be ready to take some prejudice But it’s still by far the best farmer and in PVE it’s a very good DPS’er.
By admin On February 18, 2009 No Comments
…. A Warriors Leveling Guide (1-60)
I’ve been reading all the threads here on (in the wow forums that is) for the last 6 months. Not many leveling guides or help for warriors and in fact a few threads asking for them. Well I tend to be a masochist in picking classes that I love but don’t have any ups (faster traveling, free mounts, healing, etc) thats why I tend to play a warrior or a priest.
Now for those rolling a warrior from scratch, hopefully this guild will help. I will give you the Horde point of view ( I hate alliance though I have played alliance chars up to 20 a few time but the basis is usually the same). Now I wrote this with the PVP player in mind so for PVE servers it will be much easier for you to level. In this guide you will also see a talent build to take what points to put in at what levels and when to respec for maximum efficiency.
When picking your race, it does not matter. It truly doesn’t, in the end (PVP or PVE content) it comes down to skills. I will tell you I tend to pick an Orc, but any class has its ups and downs. Just pick what race you like.
Levels 1-6: Do all your quests in your starting zone. Its useful for rep and xp. When your done you should be level 5 so grind 6 away so you are more than prepared for the next zone.
Before you start your second zone go to the third, they tend to put quests in this zone for the second zone, so pick them all up and head to your second zone.
Level 7-11: Pick up all the quests and do them all. Not much thinking involved.
Levels 12-14: Third zone same thing here.
15-25: For Horde you will be doing Silverpine, Crossroads then finish up in Stonetalon do quests. Stay away from grinding. Levels 19-23 do a couple of Wailing Caverns runs for some xp, quests and loot and if you want SFK and BFD.
Big keys: Always do chain quests. They always end (well, the majority of the time) with a great reward. Also if you are a solo type, stay away from orange quests or quests that you can’t do fairly easily. Wait until they are yellow or green. Always dump a grey quest. Also don’t spend your gold, save for your mount. And go into cooking and first aid and fishing get those and keep those as high as you can because its basically free healling and minimizes your down time.
Levels 26-37: Thousand Needles and Shimmering Flats. Stay away from the quests that tell you to go to another zone. Finish as many quests you want. Also run Gnomeragan and SM up to Cath.
38-44: Everyones favorite…..STV, hahaha. Pick up quests in Booty Bay then head to Grom’Gol, don’t forget to pick up the FP at the top of the build to the far right. Pick up all the quests in Grom’gol and try to do them all. Do SM runs for some no brainer xp and good loot. YOU WILL GET GANKED (on a pvp server) SO LIVE WITH IT.
45-50: Tanaris and Felwood are your friends. Do all the quests there and run ZF a few times for loot and xp.
50-54: Finish up your Tanaris and Felwood quests and if you havent and do Un’Goro. Pick up all the quests there and do them. There are a lot of alliance/horde, however they tend to leave you alone because they are either doing quests themselves or farming mats. I do suggest to take a buddy though. Start running Sunken Temple. Great loot and xp and if you are a skinner plenty dragons to skin.
55-57: I put off WPL till you are a higher level because on PVP servers this is gank central for high levels. Do quests there and in Wintersprings and don’t forget to equip your argent dawn trinket when in the plaguelands. Don’t turn in the scourge stones till after you get honored with argent dawn. Try to run BRD to get attuned to molten core and make sure you pick up the quest from the dead dwarve which you can only pick up when you are dead yourself to get the shadow forge key. BRD is your first taste of end game instancing. Very good loot and xp as well (if you are in a good group).
58-60: EPL and Silithus questing. If you want grind away but make sure you are rested if not just quest away.
There you have it. The key to level is knowing the quests and doing them. Thottbot or allakhazam is your friend. Plus questing doesn’t make you go insane like mindless grinding does.
Now for the talent choices…..
Levels 10-14: Cruelty (Crit is always good)
Levels 15-19: Unbridled Wrath (Gets you a lot of rage fast)
Levels 20-24: Improved Battle Shout (Ups your DPS)
Levels 25-29: Duel Wield Specialization (Ups your DPS again
Levels 30-32: Improved Rend (More damage)
Levels 33-34: Improved Heroic Stike (This will be your version of mortal strike or bloodthirst for the mean time use this and sunder armor always on mobs)
Levels 35-36: Improved Charge (Gets you more rage now)
Level 37: Improved Heroic Strike
Levels 38-39: Deflection (Not taking damage is always good)
Levels 40-42: Deep Wounds (More damge=execellent)
Levels 43-44: Improved Overpower (Critting on a rogue especially a night elf is fun)
When you hit level 45 you are going to respec.
Now what to respec at 45 to…..
Your will put 31 points into Fury:
5 in Cruelty
5 in Unbridled Wrath
5 in Improved Battle Shout
5 in Duel Wield Specialization
5 in Enrage
4 in Flurry
1 in Deathwish
and 1 in Bloodthirst
That leaves 5pts left what to put them in?
Put 5 in Anticipation from the defense tree….
1pt of defense, and correct me if I am wrong or leaving out something gives you 0.4% chance to block, parry and dodge. With 5pts in anticipation it gives you 10 defense which in turn gives you 4% extra chance to block, parry and dodge.
Now I will suggest what else to put in up until level 59 so when you hit 60 you can put that last point in or respec.
Levels 46-47: Improved Beserker Rage
Levels 48-49: Improved Bloodrage
Levels 50-54: Deflection
Levels 55-59: Toughness
Level 60 if you wish: Piercing Howl, its great in BG
By admin On February 13, 2009 No Comments
If you do the quest series in Nagrand that takes you to the bar.
The one where you have to collect the debt from 3 diffrent npcs – Well don’t turn in the quest, just keep asking the ogre at the bar for the debt and he will continue to respawn within 5-10sec of death and drop about 50 silver each time. He’s really easy to solo and you get rested xp while you do it.
We eventually turned in the quest after killing him 50 times out of sheer boredom, but maybe someone can use this to a more sinister means. . . .
By admin On February 10, 2009 No Comments
Apprentice (to 75)
– Carolai Anise (Trisfal Glades)
– Doctor Martin Felben (Undercity)
– Kray (Thunder Bluff)
– Miao’zan (Durotar)
– Whuut (Orgrimmar, The Drag)
Journeyman (to 150)
– Bena Winterhoof (Thunder Bluff)
– Doctor Marsh (Undercity)
– Jaxin Chong (Stranglethorn Vale)
– Serge Hinott (Hillsbrad Foothills)
– Yelmak (Orgrimmar)
Expert (to 225)
– Doctor Herbert Halsey (Undercity)
Artisan (to 300)
– Rogvar (Swamp of Sorrows)
Apprentice (to 75)
– Alchemist Mallory (Elwynn Forest)
– Cyndra Kindwhisper (Teldrassil)
– Ghak Healtouch (Loch Modan)
– Lilyssia Nightbreeze (Stormwind)
– Milla Fairancora (Darnassus)
– Tel’Athir (Stormwind)
– Vosur Brakthel (Ironforge)
Journeyman (to 150)
– Alchemist Narett (Dustwallow Marsh)
– Jaxin Chong (Stranglethorn Vale)
– Kylanna (Ashenvale)
– Sylvanna Forestmoon (Darnassus)
– Tally Berryfizz (Ironforge)
– Ainethil (Darnassus)
Artisan (to 300)
– Kylanna Windwhisper (Feralas)
By admin On February 8, 2009 No Comments
Apprentice (to 75)
– Chaw Stronghide (Mulgore)
– Dan Golthas (Undercity)
– Kamari (Orgrimmar)
– Mak (Thunder Bluff)
– Shelene Rhobart (Trisfal Glades)
– Waldor (Wailing Caverns)
Journeyman (to 150)
– Arthur Moore (Undercity)
– Brawn (Stranglethorn)
– Karolek (Orgrimmar)
– Krulmoo Fullmoon (The Barrens)
– Tarn (Thunder Bluff)
Expert (to 225)
– Una (Thunder Bluff)
Artisan (to 300)
– Hahrana Ironhide (Feralas)
– Dragonscale Leatherworking Quest
– Elemental Leatherworking Quest
– Tribal Leatherworking Quest
Apprentice (to 75)
– Adele Fielder (Elwynn Forest)
– Darianna (Darnassus)
– Gretta Finespindle (Ironforge)
– Nadyia Maneweaver (Teldrassil)
– Randal Worth (Stormwind)
– Waldor (Wailing Caverns)
Journeyman (to 150)
– Aayndia Floralwind (Ashenvale)
– Faldron (Darnassus)
– Fimble Finespindle (Ironforge)
– Simon Tanner (Stormwind)
Expert (to 225)
– Telonis (Darnassus)
Artisan (to 300)
– Wark Nightsky (The Hinterlands)
– Dragonscale Leatherworking Quest
– Elemental Leatherworking Quest
– Tribal Leatherworking Quest
By admin On February 5, 2009 No Comments
Soloing BRD (sorry if someone else has posted this, I have not seen it) Also, this is my first post, so it may be hard to read, just post questions and I will try and keep an eye on this to answer them.
The best run I have had I got the Fiery Enchant (35g), and the Ace of Elementals (300g+) for about 10 minutes time in the instance. Those prices are on my server.
My main is a rogue so this is written from a rogue point of view, but maybe you could do it with a druid?
Follow the steps to solo Plugger for the Barman Shanker. I am new to this site, but I sure it is posted somewhere here. If not, try www.worldofroguecraft.com it is a decent but limited site (I plan on a couple contributions to them, but posting here first for you guys)
The only variation on a Plugger (barman shanker) run is right after the Shadowforge lock. Go up the ramp and then go straight up the second ramp and cross the Ring of Law. You can pickpocket these guys for about 3-4s each if you feel like it. Free money. After crossing, go immediately to your right and see if Pyromancer Loregrain is there.
If he is, kill him. You need to kill him first, if you kill his adds and vanish, they spawn right back. I sap one, then ambush Pyromancer. I eviscerate immediately so that I don’t waste combo points. Then I blind the second add. It will depend on your set up, but I can blade flurry to do them both if I need to. I generally have to use evasion for this fight. I use Instant poison and Mind Numbing. I vanish after the boss and then the two adds are simple by themselves with a sap. I often need a single heal potion for this one.
He has been spawning pretty frequently for me (1 in 3?), and he drops the Fiery Enchant about 30% of the time. Thottbot probably says different, but those are my estimates based on my running it.
Go back through the Ring of Law and continue with the Plugger run. May as well kill him since he is easy, and then the door will open for you to get to Lord Incendius. I recommend killing the little gnomes in the room with the golems too (can’t recall name of the room, manufactory?). The gnomes have been known to drop Black Diamonds.
After killing plugger, go out the door and drop down to Incendius’ level. Avoid the elementals with him.
Poisons don’t work so I use Dense Sharpening stones. I have to drink a greater fire resist potion and put on all of my fire resist gear (I am at 127fr). I am far from “epic’d out”. He kicks you, and the lava is death so line up well and go for it. I open with distract and ambush. I have to use my prep for this fight, and both evasions. I have not had to use thistle tea (I trashed the recipe, just got it back) but I am going to start using it. I also end up using my lifestone, whipper root tubers, and a heal potion. I recently added crystal restores, and night dragon’s breath so I am hoping it gets easier.
No lie…it is a tough fight. With the new items I added I think it will go easier but it can be done. The Ace is a pretty rare drop, but a damn nice prize:)
It is fun as hell and gives a nice feeling of accomplishment…and “it’s a rogue thing” which rocks.
A short cut to Incendius does not require you to open the shadowforge lock. You jump out the window right before it, drop to the walkway, and can go straight to him.
You can also solo the rock lord in the first area. Time the dogs as they are death to stealthers. He hasn’t dropped much worthwhile for me though:(
The bad news…
Getting out alive is a PAIN, so I usually hearth from there. The damn dogs are just a nightmare on the way out.
By admin On February 4, 2009 No Comments
As you know, in World of Warcraft there are a hundred different
ways to make money. We’ll be introducing some of the more profitable
ones in this guide…
Step 1 – Change from Crafter to Gatherer
Change your tradeskill into two gathering
skills if you see that your tradeskill doesn’t bring much profit, in
fact tradeskills mostly bring very few profit because there is just
too many high level crafters with the time progressing. Leveling
tradeskills or gathering skills in this game is really not hard, at
high level it requires maybe 2-3 days of work to max a skill. If
there was a large profit to make with
enchanting/leatherworking/smithing/tailoring, people who can spend
more time online than you each day would have already maxed those
tradeskills and flooded the market with items.
In fact they did; actually shortly after people start to hit 60 on
a new server people start to exploit all possible ways to make money
to the maximum, so you got two possibilities to make money. You can
find a niche, a little secret way of making money, which is extremely
profitable but which is not known (well) by other players. As long as
your secret stays one, you will continue to make nice money, but be
sure that you wont find such a secret on any public forums as
spoiling it would also ruin the profit from it. (As soon as people
know a way to make money, many start to provide the same sort of item
and flood the market with it=decrease of demand=decrease of price
= no profit for you)
The second way, which is the interesting
way for us, is to provide the market with items that are needed
on a large base and that are always demanded. What are those items in
general? Right! Ingredients for tradeskills.
Step 2 – Choose your Gathering Skill
tradeskiller wont, at some point, be able to provide himself with all
the ingredients he needs. The more people there are who stick to
their tradeskills and don’t want to give them up, the better the
profit will be for you. This is why you should choose two gathering
skills (cannot choose more than two).
Don’t worry about making
armor – there is a simple solution: use mostly drop/quest items. If
you use items that drop instead of crafted items, you wont be much
behind (difference between items you can make and items you find at
your level while questing and hunting are mostly very small) and also
you will be able to concentrate fully on gathering ingredients which
you will sell on the AH. This way you will – in a short and fast way
- make a lot more money than any crafter and will eventually be able
to buy yourself any crafted item (if you should really want one).
Now there is only one problem, which gathering skills to
This is your choice and depends on the economy of
your server, but we have a general list of the gathering skills,
ranking them by how much profit they generate, helping you to get an
1) Mining – Mining is maybe the most
profitable gathering skill. Why? It’s used for 3 different
tradeskills => Weapon/Armor Smithing + Engineering. Also some
ores/metal bars are used for potions and other tradeskills. You can
mine several ores from one mining spot and you can melt the ore
yourself to bars.
The other VERY important fact is that you get
rare gems from mining spots which are needed for tradeskills and
other things. At high levels these rare gems start to pay off a lot,
as one arcane crystal for example can be sold for a lot of money on
the AH, because it is needed for making Arcanite Bars, the most
precious and rare metal there is.
2) Skinning – Skinning is a very profitable
gathering skill as you get all your leather while hunting. You have
to kill beast type of mobs which can drop different sorts of leather.
Sometimes you get rare scales and quest items which are also
extremely precious. Skinning is profitable because you can do it
while killing mobs, that means you go into a cave with beasts and
kill them for a certain amount of time which brings you extra loot +
exp as well as loads of leather.
3) Herbalism – Herbs are a bit hard to find,
but if you know the spots it becomes actually easy if you have no
competition. Herbs sell surprisingly well on the AH and are not
offered often. If you really search good spots in high level zones,
with not too many people you can make nice money out of this.
Especially because you can get up to three herbs from one plant.
4) (Dis)Enchanting – The last and certainly
least profitable gathering skill is disenchanting items. You take
blue/green/purple drop items and disenchant them to get ingredients
for enchanters, who then can enchant armor with stats. This is by far
the most pricey skill to raise as you miss out on all the profit from
dropped items which you could sell. Enchanting ingredients can be
sold for nice money on the AH, but keep in mind that you will not be
able to sell any good item you see dropping if you take this skill
serious. Also you will have to ask and beg in groups to get not
needed armor/weapon drops in order to disenchant them, if you don’t
play in a guild, you will certainly not be successful with your
Step 3 – Organized Gathering
Now you need to start gathering
items. It doesn’t matter if you raise your gathering skills while
leveling or as a high level, you will always want to keep these
things in min:
- Ingredients drop according to
zone level. That means, the higher the level of the ingredients
you need, the higher level the zone gets in which you have to
- Always keep up your tracking.
If you do mining or herbalism, make sure to ALWAYS have the
tracking for those items switched on, after dying for example it
turns itself off and you wont see any yellow dots anymore on the
- Find the good zones. There
are certainly better zones than others for gathering skills and good
spots for finding beasts to skin, you will have to find your very
own favorite spots which are not too crowded, but there are already
people who found out about the good zones for gathering. On our
forums here you can find a complete compendium of the best zones for
each herb for example and there is more to come about this shortly.
In the meantime you don’t have to go and search through all zones,
you can simply use www.thottbot.com
and check where the ingredient you need can be found most
- Make dots on your map. Either use the dot system (from
cosmos or insomniax) for making dots where you find certain minings
spots/herb locations, or use a mod that will do this for you
automatically; you can find one in our download section.
will allow you to go directly – without losing time – to the
possible spots for ingredients and check if they are up. The longer
you do this and the more different paths you take through a zone,
the more dots you will get and the faster/more efficient you will
become while gathering.
For skinning its slightly different; here
you will most likely find caves with a lot of beasts (like the ape
cave in Un’Goro or the Yeti cave in Winterspring), but make dots
anyway so you can quickly go to another skinning spot if there is
already someone hunting at yours.
Step 4 – Use all Your Options
You will have to combine your gathering skills with a few other things to
really make the biggest profit.
- While searching ingredients or
while waiting on the respawn of your mining/herb spots, KILL THINGS.
Kill things as much as you can on your way. Don’t kill any trash
like Oozes for example, but kill stuff that drops cloths (humanoid
mobs) or mobs that drop other useful stuff.
If you really don’t
get the time to kill mobs on your way then go into instances from
time to time. Make sure to find a rule for the loot that is
distributed and make sure to always ask if anyone needs an item, if
not everyone should roll on this dropped item.. Eventually you will
win stuff and be able to sell in on the AH.
instances you will find a lot of cloths from mobs which you can sell
in stacks on the AH.
- Always empty your bags before
going to gather stuff or before going to an instance. This is
extremely important, bag space=money. Therefore try to invest
early in 14-16 slot bags to carry as much loot as possible.
- When you do quests, and when you
don’t need any of the items that are offered as reward, make SURE
to always pick the biggest Axe/Sword/Plate Armor. Those sell for a
much nicer money than cloth items at the merchant.
- Friends who do tradeskills can
help. If you got friends who do tradeskills PROFIT from their
knowledge and ask them about how the economy goes for ingredients,
what do they need the most right now, what is the hardest item to
find currently etc.
- Make Mules. If you lack bank space don’t buy pricey bank
slots, just make a mule and log it in when needed, using the postbox
system or a friend or a second computer (if mule is on second
account) to transfer items.
Step 5 – Auction House is Your Friend
Now we get to one of the most important factors for money making, the Auction House in short AH. Almost all ingredients/gems/armor pieces can be sold for a bigger money at the AH than to the merchant. Even if the price difference is only 1 gold, it pays off with the time coming. And there we already get to the most important rule about the AH – PATIENCE.
You will have to get to know the AH, it’s prices and it’s moods,
it’s times and it’s secrets. Don’t mind studying the AH for a lot of
time, it’s well worth it. There are UI mod’s that write down
automatically on item windows the prices that they were seen for last
time on AH, this makes your work much much easier.
A few things that you need to work out about the AH:
- Get to know the prices, play
with the prices. Get to know the going prices for items that are
offered on the AH. This will allow you to estimate the best prices
for your own items and will allow you to even play with these. This
means, if you know exactly how much an item is worth normally, why
not offer it for a slightly higher price when there is no one else
offering the same item?
Right, this is where the actual profit
comes from, knowledge about prices and the AH.
- Offer all your items. Even
if it might be a bother at the beginning and even if it might take a
while, you will get used to it and find out eventually which items
sell on the AH at all and which not, allowing you to sell the ones
that don’t sell well at all to the merchant immediately.
will pretty quickly get the drill and become a pro, you will be able
to memorize prices and use them quickly to set values for your goods
in order to move on faster to more farming.
- Watch the AH. This will
allow you to detect certain leaks and holes. Sometimes items like
ores are offered in a huge amount and prices drop, you might want to
keep your items and sell other things first while waiting for a
moment when there is less of these items for sale.
EVEN consider (if you find cheap merchandise on the AH) to buy up
all of it yourself and sell it for a higher price afterwards, people
will be forced to buy from you and forced to pay the price you set
because there wont be any other source for this item, than yours.
- Whatever you do, DON’T
UNDERBID. People tend to make the prices for items lower in
order to sell them faster and to underbid competitors, this however
is very narrow minded. It will hurt you in the end and cause you to
have to sell your items cheaper and cheaper, getting less and less
money in the long run.
Look at this example: Mostly tradeskillers
start off selling crafted items for a big profit, then when
competition comes they have to lower the prices and at the end they
end up selling their stuff for slightly more than what it cost to
So if you can prevent a price decrease, rather be
patient and leave your items at the same price, eventually they will
get bought, even if it takes several tries.
- Look at what times items sell
the best. This sounds easy but it’s actually something you
always have to keep in mind.
If, for example, you hunt in an
instance and get a blue item, you will want to put it on the AH
fast. But lets assume that you are playing at a very late time, like
3 am. If you put the auction for your blue item now with a 24h
duration, the auction will expire at 3 am the next night, not
leaving many people the chance to overbid each other at the end.
(most bids are made at the last moments) So always look what is the
best, 8h duration or 24h, always check if you shouldnt maybe wait
for the next day rather to offer your item for sale, etc…
- Always put up buyout prices.
Never make auctions for items without having a buyout price. Many
people who want to raise crafting or want an armor piece fast don’t
want to wait 1 day in order to know if they won an auction or not.
This is especially true for crafting ingredients. Imagine you are a
crafter, would you want to bid on one stack of mithril bars and then
wait like 1 day just to know if you won, although you need the bars
now? Most likely you wouldn’t, so always put a buyout. Also
there are many people who have a lot of money and really want an
armor piece, those will gladly pay the buyout price if they really
desire what you sell and if your buyout price is not way too high.
- Last point is – what to put as buyout and what to put as
base bid? This is something you will have to find out yourself
but a general rule that you can apply at the beginning is, don’t
ever go lower than the default base price that is given to you as
starting bid. Also if you are not sure what to put as buyout, look
at other auctions selling the same item, if there is none, put the
double of the base price (+ a bit more maybe) until you get to know
the economy. But beware, this is only a vague rule for beginners,
getting to know the prices of your AH is OBLIGATORY.
By admin On February 4, 2009 No Comments
Hello again, it was long time since i wrote here. I’ve had some family issues aswell as BC coming up. Now when i have my Blood Elf Paladin at lvl 70 i decided to write my second part of the guide ‘How to make gold before level 60′, but i’m now editing it to ‘How to make gold before level 70′.
PART TWO: STRATEGY AND METHOD
One very important thing that everyone must think about before they level up their character is how they want it in the end. Ask yourself these questions for example:
Do you want to be exalted with a specific faction when you ding max level?
Do you want to PvP or PvE?
Do i want to grind alot or perhaps quest alot?
These and alot of other questions are very important for how your character will develop. You can of course do all of these things but the problem is that not everyone has time for this because of different real life issues and therefore has to read in a guide like this to solve this problem. Because we all want to be the best of the best, right?
Say that you create an Dwarf Priest, you decide that you want to go exalted with Darnassus so you can get the tiger mount easy later on. Then you will have to move all the way to Terdasill to quest for easy Night Elf reputation. This is an example of how you plan your characters future.
With the release of Burning Crusade many people made misstakes, well, not really misstakes… but they took a path that would be very meaningless.
You probably wonder what they did, and i will tell you.
Once they reached outlands they started questing, and questing means more experience of course but there is one problem. Many of the different instances in outlands is reputation based. With this i mean that you for example need to be revered with one specific instance to go inside it in heroic mode on lvl 70. Now to get revered with a faction most people problably know that you will need quite some amount of reputation.
Let me give you a hint what happened after everyone leveled to 70.
First we take a random character name, lets call him Yuri.
Yuri quested 60-70 and by doing that he was first to ding 70 on the server. Yuri was of course happy but suddenly he noticed that all instances in the game needed revered to be able to enter in heroic mode.
But Yuri had already done all quests for that faction and by this Yuri was only honored. Now Yuri had to farm instances for 1 week to open the instance and alot of people passed him because of better strategy.
The second player, Sayic, decided to do instances to level 70 with some grinding involved. When he dinged 70 he had only done some non faction binded quests aswell as lots of instances. He had awsome gear and was honored with all the factions. What did he need?
Well as said before he needed revered. But because Sayic had saved all his quests for the faction he managed to do all the quest for the faction very easy because he was so high level and therefore gained revered in one afternoon.
If you now analyse these two different players stratergies, wich one of them was the best?
In my opinion the lazy one with instance grinding to 70.
Remember that a smart player is a lazy player.
Now there are different methods of leveling through the game, and they all differ in difficulties.
The main leveling methods are Questing and Grinding. And then you can of course do these in different ways like AoE grinding or Single mob grinding.
The fastest way for a beginner aswell as a professional would probably be questing. Remember that if you want low /played time like Joana or any other powergamer. PLAY AS THEY DO!
Think like this when you are online:
Am i totaly ready to level?
Am i sure i wont go do something else?
Speed is the key… and if you start to do other things like ALT+TAB out and look on webpages , you might aswell just logout.
Now remember, the key to fortune is to learn the AH. And it is actually not very hard to understand it, actually it is very much like our own stock market. If demands go up the prices follow, if they go down so does the prices.
So now you probably want to put up some strategy for your item selling. You want to sell the item, think like the buyer.
Would i pay this much money for this item?
If you answer yes then put it up on AH for that price.
Remember it is not bad to undercut other people’s items, it will just raise your chance of getting your item sold witch will enable you to earn more money.
Now do you remember what i said about instance grinding in BC, just think about all the gold you will get from the quests you saved, because you will get money instead of the experience you were suppose to get for the quest.If you just do this to level 70 and then do the quests you are guarranted an epic flying mount.
Now for some final info for you guys who still havent farmed enough gold for your epic flying mount.
There are 2 really good grinding areas,
The first one is in Nagrand on the ogres, these drop alot of money, netherweave and also give rep!!!
And the other one (wich is in my opinion the best) are the water creatures around Terokkar Forest, these drop insainely amount of good loot.
/// Good luck with the questing and instancing in BC